We went for a picnic to Al Rayan Dairy Farm in Hofuf in Saudi. It was unbelievable to see the cows walking into the milking area in perfect line and standing patiently for fixing the milking machine. Then walking away in such a disciplined manner. This is 3 times a day giving on an average 45L of milk a day! Video Rating: 4 / 5
Well I can guarantee that they are getting milked way more than 10% out. Before I say anything else, what is it exactly you do. I was born and raised on a dairy and continue to work on our dairy so it will take a lot for someone that doesn't have a dairy background or is currently working on one to know more than I do. I'm not trying to be arrogant but it's the truth.
What are you talking about? You do not see any thing. You do not see any milking equipment. You see heavy metal surrounding the cows. You do not see their udders and teats at all. You only see the men spraying the teats and then wiping their teats with dirty cloth. I doubt the cows were comfortable surrounded by all that metal & they were working on that many cows. The milk was getting soaked back in the spongy tissue in the udders & the machines were not gettingt moew than 10% of the milk out.
I'm surprised that the arabs washed the teats of the cows before milking. Only they were making the teats dirty again by wiping them to dry them. It is not necessary to dry them. But the arabs were doing a great job. I hope they were nott filling the milk tank with that water when no one was looking.
The milking environment here looks so calm and enjoyable. The cows don't look stressed and the milk hands are doing a really good job. Over all, I think this dairy is keeping one thing in mind, cow comfort. Without cow comfort milk production would drastically drop along with lame and sick cows. In this video I saw no signs of lameness. One thing I would suggest though is a rubber mat infront of the rapid exits. I feel that would do a lot of good seeing how they go through there 3 times a day
Yeah don't worry I treat my cows with respect and don't hurt them.
The reason I have such a strong dislike for vegans is because vegans oftern say all farming is cruel, which is a horrible lie because it isnt that way at all on family run farms!
Because of your strong dislike for vegans I assumed you to be a factory farmer. I'm glad you are not. I knew all family farmers; large and small; would know that cows do not go out to the fields in the winter. They are let out during cleaning twice a day during cleaning in the winter, depending on the country. They live on hay, silage and dry meal in the winter. I'm a farmers daughter and ask please don't hurt your animals.
When I said I also disagree with factory farming, I thought you might get the gist that I am a small farmer who does let his cows out to grass. they spend april- october outside depending on the weather.
Now you may think it is kind to let cows be outside all year round, but no... Hell No! I can garuntee when it rains/ snows/ freezes cows would much rather be indoors, as I have seen my own cows walk from the field to the barn, which makes 100% sense!
That's the answer. Make sure they don't turn at 90degrees. Problem solved. Your cows are moving around but they need to eat fresh growing grass too. That's what cows do - they eat grass. Can't they have a couple of hours outside eating grass. They deserve it after making you so much money don't they? Give them a chance of a decent life before they die PLEASE!!
Oh yes I disagree with factory farming too. However, my problem is vegans these days seem to say ALL farming is evil and cruel. Which is total bollocks.
Also you are correct that a wet summer and autum would increase cases of foul of the foot HOWEVER, they have no direct links with 'White Line'. White line is caused by sudden movements on an area of the foot. For example, If a farm has bad cow flow, and the cows have to turn a sharp 90degrees out of the parlour, it would cause 'White line'
A wet summer and autumn increases lameness problems. This causes large numbers of cows with white line disease and foul of the foot to suffer more. Wet and muddy tracks or gateways seem to be the main cause. Cows examined as soon as they show signs of lameness should be treated with corrective trimming, blocks and antibiotics. By the way I am from a large farming stock. However, I total disagree with the cruelty of factory farming
if you see these animals when they get to explore every new piece of land we have, there is no sadness. running, jumping, etc. These cows are domesticated creatures and have been for centuries
Ok smart arse, if you know more than a farmer does about his own cows Tell me: 1. Where White line disease occurs on a cow. 2. What causes it. 3. How to cure it.
Im waiting....
Oh wait, you don't even know what White line is.... so don't pretend you know more than a farmer, because, you don't!
I know you don't want to harm animals. However, to turn a blind eye to their plight is harming them. You should set an example - talk it through with everyone so see if you can find a way to allow them to have a life before they die. Monotony doesn't work for me and it doesn't work for them either. I know it -- they look so sad.
Well, as dairy a dairy farmer, I am aware that the misfortune of having to sell a cow is inevitable. However, it dosnt necessarily mean to a slaughterhouse. They may go to, another farm, or to a small petting zoo. I do know that 3 farms in my area that went out of buisness sent there cows to turkey for there dairy farms. And that is very costly. However it doesnt mean they are abused. Nobody thinks its cool, fun, or enjoyable to harm an animal.
You have a system that is not as cruel as some. Basically, the call for more humanity to farm animals is because their basic natural need has been camouflaged by the progress of farming. Vegetarians are disappointment with farmers over-ruling cattle's most important needs (grass). Farmers think they know all there is to know about farm animals. They only know what farmers need and that is money -- lots. Three times a day cows walk into the milking parlour to give milk-- it's monotonous
No one cares what you think, clearly you don't know anything about farming, agriculture or where your food comes from. Water is used to clean the bovine's feet to help prevent foot diseases ie. hairy heel wart. Stop messaging your life away and go do something productive.
I think that they play too much with water and it is too noisy. Consequently the cows do not like to walk on the parlor. Looks like the melkhands do not wear gloves. This increases the risk of Staph. aureus. This guy need to be trained better.
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Well I can guarantee that they are getting milked way more than 10% out. Before I say anything else, what is it exactly you do. I was born and raised on a dairy and continue to work on our dairy so it will take a lot for someone that doesn't have a dairy background or is currently working on one to know more than I do. I'm not trying to be arrogant but it's the truth.
ReplyDeleteWhat are you talking about? You do not see any thing. You do not see any milking equipment. You see heavy metal surrounding the cows. You do not see their udders and teats at all. You only see the men spraying the teats and then wiping their teats with dirty cloth. I doubt the cows were comfortable surrounded by all that metal & they were working on that many cows. The milk was getting soaked back in the spongy tissue in the udders & the machines were not gettingt moew than 10% of the milk out.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised that the arabs washed the teats of the cows before milking. Only they were making the teats dirty again by wiping them to dry them. It is not necessary to dry them. But the arabs were doing a great job. I hope they were nott filling the milk tank with that water when no one was looking.
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ReplyDeleteThe milking environment here looks so calm and enjoyable. The cows don't look stressed and the milk hands are doing a really good job. Over all, I think this dairy is keeping one thing in mind, cow comfort. Without cow comfort milk production would drastically drop along with lame and sick cows. In this video I saw no signs of lameness. One thing I would suggest though is a rubber mat infront of the rapid exits. I feel that would do a lot of good seeing how they go through there 3 times a day
ReplyDeleteYeah don't worry I treat my cows with respect and don't hurt them.
ReplyDeleteThe reason I have such a strong dislike for vegans is because vegans oftern say all farming is cruel, which is a horrible lie because it isnt that way at all on family run farms!
Because of your strong dislike for vegans I assumed you to be a factory farmer. I'm glad you are not. I knew all family farmers; large and small; would know that cows do not go out to the fields in the winter. They are let out during cleaning twice a day during cleaning in the winter, depending on the country. They live on hay, silage and dry meal in the winter. I'm a farmers daughter and ask please don't hurt your animals.
ReplyDeleteWhen I said I also disagree with factory farming, I thought you might get the gist that I am a small farmer who does let his cows out to grass. they spend april- october outside depending on the weather.
ReplyDeleteNow you may think it is kind to let cows be outside all year round, but no... Hell No! I can garuntee when it rains/ snows/ freezes cows would much rather be indoors, as I have seen my own cows walk from the field to the barn, which makes 100% sense!
That's the answer. Make sure they don't turn at 90degrees. Problem solved.
ReplyDeleteYour cows are moving around but they need to eat fresh growing grass too. That's what cows do - they eat grass. Can't they have a couple of hours outside eating grass. They deserve it after making you so much money don't they? Give them a chance of a decent life before they die PLEASE!!
Oh yes I disagree with factory farming too. However, my problem is vegans these days seem to say ALL farming is evil and cruel. Which is total bollocks.
ReplyDeleteAlso you are correct that a wet summer and autum would increase cases of foul of the foot HOWEVER, they have no direct links with 'White Line'.
White line is caused by sudden movements on an area of the foot. For example, If a farm has bad cow flow, and the cows have to turn a sharp 90degrees out of the parlour, it would cause 'White line'
ok, nice talking to you. have a great day!
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ReplyDeleteA wet summer and autumn increases lameness problems. This causes large numbers of cows with white line disease and foul of the foot to suffer more. Wet and muddy tracks or gateways seem to be the main cause. Cows examined as soon as they show signs of lameness should be treated with corrective trimming, blocks and antibiotics.
ReplyDeleteBy the way I am from a large farming stock. However, I total disagree with the cruelty of factory farming
if you see these animals when they get to explore every new piece of land we have, there is no sadness. running, jumping, etc. These cows are domesticated creatures and have been for centuries
ReplyDeleteOk smart arse, if you know more than a farmer does about his own cows Tell me:
ReplyDelete1. Where White line disease occurs on a cow.
2. What causes it.
3. How to cure it.
Im waiting....
Oh wait, you don't even know what White line is....
so don't pretend you know more than a farmer, because, you don't!
I know you don't want to harm animals. However, to turn a blind eye to their plight is harming them. You should set an example - talk it through with everyone so see if you can find a way to allow them to have a life before they die. Monotony doesn't work for me and it doesn't work for them either. I know it -- they look so sad.
ReplyDeleteWell, as dairy a dairy farmer, I am aware that the misfortune of having to sell a cow is inevitable. However, it dosnt necessarily mean to a slaughterhouse. They may go to, another farm, or to a small petting zoo. I do know that 3 farms in my area that went out of buisness sent there cows to turkey for there dairy farms. And that is very costly. However it doesnt mean they are abused. Nobody thinks its cool, fun, or enjoyable to harm an animal.
ReplyDeleteOK Big boy. If they don't go to auction, an abattoir or as live transport somewhere; where do they go?
ReplyDeleteYeah because thats not outrageously expensive or anything
ReplyDeleteI expect they go to straight to an abattoir or treated as live transport and sent to Asian or Arabian countries to be slaughtered cruelly.
ReplyDeleteYou have a system that is not as cruel as some. Basically, the call for more humanity to farm animals is because their basic natural need has been camouflaged by the progress of farming. Vegetarians are disappointment with farmers over-ruling cattle's most important needs (grass). Farmers think they know all there is to know about farm animals. They only know what farmers need and that is money -- lots. Three times a day cows walk into the milking parlour to give milk-- it's monotonous
ReplyDeleteNo one cares what you think, clearly you don't know anything about farming, agriculture or where your food comes from. Water is used to clean the bovine's feet to help prevent foot diseases ie. hairy heel wart. Stop messaging your life away and go do something productive.
ReplyDeleteI think that they play too much with water and it is too noisy. Consequently the cows do not like to walk on the parlor. Looks like the melkhands do not wear gloves. This increases the risk of Staph. aureus. This guy need to be trained better.
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